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	<title>Comments on: 2P START! Live!: Debatable Edition</title>
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		<title>By: D3vin</title>
		<link>http://www.2pstart.com/2008/10/20/2p-start-live-debatable-edition/#comment-10466</link>
		<dc:creator>D3vin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strike&gt;Good podcast. &lt;/strike&gt;Great comment of the week. D3vin, you are the super fan. How can mere mortals like me compete for comment of the week?
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Well actually I was going for the &quot;internet loot&quot; section of the podcast but C.o.t.W will have to do. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strike>Good podcast. </strike>Great comment of the week. D3vin, you are the super fan. How can mere mortals like me compete for comment of the week?
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<p>Well actually I was going for the &#8220;internet loot&#8221; section of the podcast but C.o.t.W will have to do. <img src='http://www.2pstart.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sheppy</title>
		<link>http://www.2pstart.com/2008/10/20/2p-start-live-debatable-edition/#comment-10455</link>
		<dc:creator>sheppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, gotta say I side with Sony on this one.  After all, EVERYTHING they do tends to bite them in the butt.  It&#039;s like groups are WAITING for a Sony misstep.  As an example, take a look at the racists PSP ads fiasco.  Despite the white dominating the black one being the least violent and also being less that 20% of that ad run, no one paid attention to the even fighting one or the one where the black chick is on top of the white one bringing a punch down.  Or the graffiti fiasco where Sony paid business owners to &quot;tag&quot; building sides for a period of three weeks and that one blew up on them too.

The Qur&#039;an quotes in question aren&#039;t some lovely dovey stuff.  These two phrases which made the song cut is as follows.

&lt;em&gt;Every soul shall have the taste of death...  
All that is on earth will perish...&lt;/em&gt;

While it sucks that it was delayed, seriously... six days.  Cry me a river, build me a bridge, and get over it.  If those quotes stayed in an E rated game, you can bet your butt everyone from Fox to Dr. Phil will be jumping on the game censor bandwagon.  Just as Nintendo had to pull a couple songs from Ocarina of Time to avoid controversy (and remove the word &quot;Hell&quot; from Captain Falcon&#039;s jacket), Sony has to do the same here.  And sadly, it was a Muslim group that alerted them even though it was a Muslim song.

Games don&#039;t have the privelage of being under the radar anymore.  The moral majority who expect Cartoon Network and Playstation to raise their children unfortunately still run this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, gotta say I side with Sony on this one.  After all, EVERYTHING they do tends to bite them in the butt.  It&#8217;s like groups are WAITING for a Sony misstep.  As an example, take a look at the racists PSP ads fiasco.  Despite the white dominating the black one being the least violent and also being less that 20% of that ad run, no one paid attention to the even fighting one or the one where the black chick is on top of the white one bringing a punch down.  Or the graffiti fiasco where Sony paid business owners to &#8220;tag&#8221; building sides for a period of three weeks and that one blew up on them too.</p>
<p>The Qur&#8217;an quotes in question aren&#8217;t some lovely dovey stuff.  These two phrases which made the song cut is as follows.</p>
<p><em>Every soul shall have the taste of death&#8230;<br />
All that is on earth will perish&#8230;</em></p>
<p>While it sucks that it was delayed, seriously&#8230; six days.  Cry me a river, build me a bridge, and get over it.  If those quotes stayed in an E rated game, you can bet your butt everyone from Fox to Dr. Phil will be jumping on the game censor bandwagon.  Just as Nintendo had to pull a couple songs from Ocarina of Time to avoid controversy (and remove the word &#8220;Hell&#8221; from Captain Falcon&#8217;s jacket), Sony has to do the same here.  And sadly, it was a Muslim group that alerted them even though it was a Muslim song.</p>
<p>Games don&#8217;t have the privelage of being under the radar anymore.  The moral majority who expect Cartoon Network and Playstation to raise their children unfortunately still run this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Loooca</title>
		<link>http://www.2pstart.com/2008/10/20/2p-start-live-debatable-edition/#comment-10452</link>
		<dc:creator>Loooca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim not finishing Twilight Princess? Well, I can understand, I myself hit a hiatus. But flinging himself off those edges in SSBB? Worst thing anyone can do! I really pity Ray if he has to go through Tim&#039;s suicidal acts :(

I wish the lyrics were talking about loving God or the Qur&#039;an, Tim. It&#039;s talking about Judgement Day and all humans dying (which is natural and all). And, yeah -- I was getting the game for my little brother and frankly, I don&#039;t want him to hear such words in a game, let alone mix music with the Qur&#039;an. Updating/patches are out of the question, &#039;cause he&#039;s impatient like that. Everyone seems to think that it doesn&#039;t matter because they won&#039;t understand it anyway, but there are some millions who are going to play the game who &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; understand the language, mostly young kids.

When a couple of guys contacted Sony about it, Sony answered them within hours and said they&#039;re looking into it right away -- that impressed me, really, as I didn&#039;t think they&#039;ll get much out of Sony, that Sony is going to label them as extremist and go on with their original plans. And fine, they have a large market in the Middle East and were probably worried about that, but they still responded.

What&#039;s currently annoying me is the singer, he&#039;s claiming that it&#039;s normal to use words from the Qur&#039;an in a song -- er, yeah, wherever he came with that from. The guys responsible for the audio/music are to blame, too -- don&#039;t pick a song just because it sounds cool, that&#039;s stupid. This is a video game, not a radio talk show that only 50 know about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim not finishing Twilight Princess? Well, I can understand, I myself hit a hiatus. But flinging himself off those edges in SSBB? Worst thing anyone can do! I really pity Ray if he has to go through Tim&#8217;s suicidal acts <img src='http://www.2pstart.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I wish the lyrics were talking about loving God or the Qur&#8217;an, Tim. It&#8217;s talking about Judgement Day and all humans dying (which is natural and all). And, yeah &#8212; I was getting the game for my little brother and frankly, I don&#8217;t want him to hear such words in a game, let alone mix music with the Qur&#8217;an. Updating/patches are out of the question, &#8217;cause he&#8217;s impatient like that. Everyone seems to think that it doesn&#8217;t matter because they won&#8217;t understand it anyway, but there are some millions who are going to play the game who <i>do</i> understand the language, mostly young kids.</p>
<p>When a couple of guys contacted Sony about it, Sony answered them within hours and said they&#8217;re looking into it right away &#8212; that impressed me, really, as I didn&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll get much out of Sony, that Sony is going to label them as extremist and go on with their original plans. And fine, they have a large market in the Middle East and were probably worried about that, but they still responded.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s currently annoying me is the singer, he&#8217;s claiming that it&#8217;s normal to use words from the Qur&#8217;an in a song &#8212; er, yeah, wherever he came with that from. The guys responsible for the audio/music are to blame, too &#8212; don&#8217;t pick a song just because it sounds cool, that&#8217;s stupid. This is a video game, not a radio talk show that only 50 know about.</p>
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		<title>By: roadjcat</title>
		<link>http://www.2pstart.com/2008/10/20/2p-start-live-debatable-edition/#comment-10444</link>
		<dc:creator>roadjcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t care less about Mario Galaxy, but &lt;strong&gt;I&lt;/strong&gt; haven&#039;t even gotten all of the items in Prime 3, though I did get 75 percent, I meant to get 100 on my third playthrough, but I suck at hypermode. XD I&#039;m not much of a completionist.

But things are looking good for you Ray, at least from my point of view. :D

Ooo! I have another completion question: Who&#039;s finished all the Paper Mario&#039;s at least twice? Anyone? This is actually open to anyone that wants to answer.

And Ray, perhaps you could post a version of the podcast that is unedited...just this once. I understand editing out a lot of parts on the podcasts, but when it comes to choosing a president, we need to know all the facts! XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t care less about Mario Galaxy, but <strong>I</strong> haven&#8217;t even gotten all of the items in Prime 3, though I did get 75 percent, I meant to get 100 on my third playthrough, but I suck at hypermode. XD I&#8217;m not much of a completionist.</p>
<p>But things are looking good for you Ray, at least from my point of view. <img src='http://www.2pstart.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ooo! I have another completion question: Who&#8217;s finished all the Paper Mario&#8217;s at least twice? Anyone? This is actually open to anyone that wants to answer.</p>
<p>And Ray, perhaps you could post a version of the podcast that is unedited&#8230;just this once. I understand editing out a lot of parts on the podcasts, but when it comes to choosing a president, we need to know all the facts! XD</p>
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		<title>By: MetaRidleyR27</title>
		<link>http://www.2pstart.com/2008/10/20/2p-start-live-debatable-edition/#comment-10443</link>
		<dc:creator>MetaRidleyR27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I&#039;m curious about this whole vice-president thing as well. Heck, even I want to be one. Could I perhaps?

And Tim! You need to get on the ball about those games! I know you beat Portal and Bioshock rather quickly, so why not these games? Mostly everyone on this site is a fan of Nintendo, so show some Nintendo support! :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I&#8217;m curious about this whole vice-president thing as well. Heck, even I want to be one. Could I perhaps?</p>
<p>And Tim! You need to get on the ball about those games! I know you beat Portal and Bioshock rather quickly, so why not these games? Mostly everyone on this site is a fan of Nintendo, so show some Nintendo support! <img src='http://www.2pstart.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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