Ray Returns to The Spindash Podcast

TimRay was once again interviewd by GXEchidna on The Spindash Podcast. It’s a laid back discussion about how this year’s been for Sonic, what games they’ve been playing lately, what to expect from Project Needlemouse, and some disagreements over Sonic Team’s target audience. Takes about a half-hour before they really get warmed up, but if you’re a Sonic Nerd or just love Ray’s dreamy voice, check it out!

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  1. The Gastronomic Gamer says:

    The podcast is interesting, but it’s meandering and the sound quality is low. Oh, and there should be more interruptions. It moves too slowly.

  2. Phos says:

    Just so you know, Digi Valentine has inside sources that NIGHTS isn’t in ASR. It wouldn’t be the first time.

  3. Kvb says:

    Vast improvement over the last time, in about every way. Way to go, GXE. I also liked that Ray stuck around for the entire podcast, rather than just the interview.
    Still a little too long, though. And I’m missing a deep voice to cancel out the high pitch of every single one of you.

    Wow. “I have to ask.” I can’t believe I got an inside joke only 2 episodes in!

  4. Highwater Trousers says:

    Great podcast and let me be the first to say, welcome to the world of the Playstation 3! Plenty of great games, both multi-console and PS3 exclusives. Be sure to check out some of the Greatest Hits, they’re just $30.00 I believe.

    I do apologize, I haven’t heard any of The Spindash podcasts before. That said, I did enjoy this one and I take it the majority of you guys are Wii owners? If so, that would explain why nobody mentioned Final Fantasy XIII. I wasn’t to keen about XII, but the fact that XIII is coming out in the next few months has me excited and disappointed at the same time.

    I’ll be sure to go check out some of your guys’ older podcasts when I get a chance. Also, a Sonic 3 composer just stated that Michael Jackson was involved in Sonic 3. More specifically, the credits and Stranger in Moscow. Go figure, huh?

  5. roadjcat says:

    I haven’t been too thrilled with this year as well. Especially with the Wii. The only really good games that came out this year that are coming to mind are Modern Warfare 2 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2, both 360 games. And what’s with the hating of Modern Warfare games? I don’t like FPS’s much and they’re the only two M games I’ve played, but the campaigns are done SO well.

    And I agree with you Ray about how Nintendo seems to be focusing on their already made games.

    Aside from Other M, it’s Trauma Team and Endless Ocean 2 for me. Oh yeah, and SoulSilver I guess. 😀 I didn’t have any problems with Platinum or Pearl, so I can’t tell you if they improved. XD

    And sorry, but ew, Star Wars. XD

    Double Dash is the best Mario Kart.

    Holy crap, I totally forget about Ace Attorney Investigations for some reason.

    I really like Metroid’s universe as well. And I was one of the people who didn’t like scanning, so yay for Other M.

    Oh and new Okami should be awesome.

    Wow no relevant Rouge mention. Odd.

  6. kbknigon says:

    Holy crap, an hour and a half? But the title image made me lol, so I’ll listen anyway.

  7. zfleeman says:

    Hey Ray,

    Which IGN Podcasts do you listen to? After hearing your Tony Hawk Ride story, I was expecting to hear, “Scoop!”

  8. D3vin says:

    Too bad the bad quality of the last one makes me not want to download this, Just because it has Sonic on it, doesn’t make me want to get it all the more. Now if you add NiGHTS, I might consider burning all of my NiGHTS stuff

  9. GX Echidna says:

    I find it funny that one of the biggest complaints is how long it is. Most professional programs that I listen to at least push the hour mark, 2P Start being one of the few that doesn’t.

    Tim, Ray, you’re raising a generation of short attention spans!

    • Kvb says:

      Those shows probably have a lot to talk about.
      But you’re a Sonic show. Like you yourself said: It’s not the most content heavy subject out there. I don’t think Sonic warrants roughly an hour and a half every episode.

      And just because everyone else is doing it, doesn’t mean it’s the best thing to do.
      Even before I listened to 2P Start Live, length has always been the main issue to me, so I can’t say 2P Start spoiled me. They were simply the first to do it right.

      • The Gastronomic Gamer says:

        I agree. The amount of content you have planned is important. For example, I could listen to Radio Lab for days at a time, but 2P Start! Live is the perfect length. They talk about what’s important to them, then they say goodbye. I think that the amount of research is proportional to how long the show is allowed to be.

      • GX Echidna says:

        That would be true, wer te we exclusively talking about Sonic-related things. I’d say there was maybe 40 minutes of actual on-topic Sonic discussion, if that. I felt that most of it was just general discussion abouthe year, Nintendo, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Sega as a company, and the all encompassing et cetera.

        Further, I believe you misinterpreted what I meant when I say there’s not much to talk about pertaining to Sonic. I mean that there aren’t a wide variety of topics week-to-week, but one can certainly discuss elements of any particular topic at length. Obviously, the question then arises of quality over said length, but considering that my target audience is the more-than-just-casual Sonic enthusiast (much in the same way that 2P Start Live is targeted towards the more-than-just-casual 2P Start enthusiast), I believe such an audience would find enough enjoyment out of the whole show despite its length.

        One must also consider differing goals among podcast styles. The episode in question is more of an open discussion than the heavily structured format that 2P Start Live offers. If I were to offer an example, consider the fact that in one of the most recent episodes, Ray cut out a 45 minute discussion about the movie Up. It is my believe that he did so because it didn’t relate to the goals of the show enough to be included, but the discussion in full was still accessible to those who wanted it because it is still a topic worth analyzing. My goals are to include the analysis.

        That, and I always have best intentions for shorter shows, which I can never seem to achieve. Time passes too quickly when one is having fun chatting it up with friends.

      • The Gastronomic Gamer says:

        I think that I’ve found the problem. Chatting with friends and recording a podcast are two different activities. Sure, they often can be fun when bundled together, but you need to remember that idle chatter shouldn’t be left in unless it’s particularly amusing to listeners. I enjoyed the podcast, but there were definitely parts that could’ve been trimmed.

      • Kvb says:

        I do sometimes feel like I missed something I would’ve wanted to hear on 2P Start, so I can respect your intention to exclude as little as possible…
        But don’t lose sight of the fact that you’re asking people for an hour and a half out of their schedule. Sure, podcasts can be listened to on the go, but I pretty much never spend a consecutive 90 minutes just traveling, or even idling.
        When I listened to you podcast, I had to make time for it, and while your podcast was pretty good, I’m not sure if the payoff was worth 90 minutes of my time, even if I had been a hardcore Sonic fan.

  10. Ryman says:

    Wow roadjcat, you really do live under a rock. This year has been great for videogames in general (excluding the wii.)

    I mean, we got Dragon Age Origins, Batman AA, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Modern Warfare 2, InFamous, Prototype, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, Halo ODST, Assasin’s Creed 2, Demon’s Souls, Street Fighter IV, Tekken 6, Borderlands, Phantasy Star 0, Zelda Spirit Tracks, Mario and Luigi: BiS, The New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Wii Sports Resort, Fifa 10 (which is a fantastic game btw), Forza Motorsport 3, GTA CTW, L4D2, Rolando 2: Quest for the Golden Orchid (yes, I added an iPhone game), DiRT 2, SMGT: Devil Survivor, MLB 09: The Show, Big Bang Mini, COD: MWR, Little King’s Story, and KH: 365/2. Oh, and Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure.

    And they’re all shoe-ins for GOTY for their system. This year has been truely remarkable for gaming. Develepor’s have been putting effort into their games. Actually, I just wanted to say that in general, you just got caught in the crossfire roadjcat.

    • roadjcat says:

      You just said excluding the Wii. I still don’t play M games with the exception of the Modern Warfare games. Nor do I have a PS3.

      I didn’t care for Wii Sports Resort much. It was fun for a while, but it got old quickly. Wasn’t a fan of Bowser’s Inside Story either. Street Fighter IV was okay. It was fun, but nothing utterly fantastic, though it was probably better than a lot of games this year, so I forgot about that one. I don’t like Zelda much or Mario platformers. Not a fan or realistic racing games. No reason for me to get Modern Warfare Reflex when I have the original. Don’t like sports games. Don’t own an iPhone. I am planning to get Arkham Asylum for Christmas though.

      So it may have been a good year for some, but I was not one of those people.

      • CKcheeseboy says:

        So are there any games you DO like?

        And you could throw Metroid Prime Trilogy in there…sure it’s not “NEW” but it’s still three AMAZING games for the price of one, and for people who never played the original (like me), it was definitely one of the must-have releases on the Wii this year.

        Glad to see somebody else played Little King’s Story, though. Way too under-appreciated…if you like Pikmin, you should get that game, if only to hold you off until Pikmin 3 finally comes out gets officially announced.

        On a personal note, I only have a Wii and DS but I was pretty satisfied with this year. MPT, LKS, Beatles: RB, WSR, Excitebots, Boom Blox Bash Party, FE: SD, Punch-Out!!, Pokemon Platinum, Prof. Layton 2, M&L3, and Scribblenauts are ones I’ve actually played, and one’s I want/will get for Christmas are Spirit Tracks, A Boy and His Blob, Lego: RB, NSMBW, KH 358/2 Days. So even for Nintendo consoles, there was plenty depending on your tastes.

      • roadjcat says:

        Obviously. You see how I obsess over tons of games. Just very few of this year’s games were stand outs for me. Of the ones you’ve listed that I’ve played:
        1. Metroid Prime Trilogy, yes, very good, but I’ve played it before.
        2.Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon, without a doubt the worst FE. I actually don’t even like it.
        3.Punch-Out!!, okay but a bit too difficult, fun for a while, but not a standout.
        4. Platinum, good, but it was probably the worst “third” game.
        5.Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box, haven’t finished it yet. Pretty good, but a tad bit frustrating. Not really enough to be super memorable for me. Though I did like how you had to use the instruction manual and use a physical object to solve one of the puzzles.
        6. Mario and Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story, fun, but as a Mario RPG it will inevitably be compared to Paper Mario, and all three were far superior.
        7.Scribblenauts, entertaining for a bit but that’s all. The things you can actually do with the items you summon are severely limited.

  11. CKcheeseboy says:

    1. But not with pointer controls 😛 I don’t even want to think about how analog controls would feel after playing with them…but yeah, that game is kind of a sketchy one to put on a list of the year’s good games.
    2. I’d agree, because I’ve only played that, PoR, and RD, but I still thought it was good…just maybe not great/amazing.
    4. I might agree, although it depends on how you are looking at it. You could just compare them straight, or you could compare them as 3rd games (as in compare what they added). Either way, Emerald is my favorite “3rd” as well as overall.
    5. I love that whole series, and I would say it was better than the first. Definitely worth including on a “best games of the year” list.
    6. I thought it was one of the best Mario RPGs. (be forewarned, I haven’t put tons of thought into this next part, it’s more “I guess this is how I feel”) I think TTYD might be my favorite Mario RPG, then BiS. The other M&L and SPM would kind of be mixed in there, with PM slightly behind and SMPRG in last. Now before anybody goes crazy, I have no nostalgia clouding my judgment. My first Mario RPGs were M&L and TTYD, then the later ones, finally going back to PM and SMRPG on VC. I just don’t like how the old ones are missing some mechanics and things from the newer games. For example, I hate how you can’t strike outside of battle in SMRPG and you can’t counter in battle. Things like that make the game more frustrating to play after having the feature in newer games, so they look worse in comparison.

    As for the other stuff, I was just listing stuff I thought was “good” or better, not necessarily saying that everything I listed was GOTY material (Punch-Out!!, for example).

    • CKcheeseboy says:

      Crap, that was supposed to be a reply…

    • roadjcat says:

      1. It’s really not that bad without the Motion Controls. In some aspects it’s actually easier.
      2.I liked those better as well of course. Thing is, Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn are two of my favorite games period, so you can imagine why I was so upset with how stripped down Shadow Dragon was.
      4.I mean don’t get me wrong, it was still a very good game, but I only ended up sinking 20 hours into as opposed to the 120 hours in Pearl.
      5. Yeah, I need to finish it. I think I’m looking for pieces of the photo, which isn’t the most exciting thing.
      6.For me, in order, Paper Mario, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Bowser’s Inside Story, Super Mario RPG. I couldn’t even get like two seconds into RPG. I got up to the final boss in Partners in Time but never finished it which is why I didn’t include it. And I’ve never played the original Mario and Luigi. Thing is, I don’t like how it’s an all or nothing thing in Mario and Luigi. You either avoid the attack or take massive damage. There’s like no middle ground. Even in The Thousand Year Door, you have the option to deflect attacks, but it’s still way more doable then in Mario and Luigi. And in Paper Mario, you don’t have to deal with it at all, because you will ALWAYS take damage, all you can do is reduce it by one, so there’s no huge loss if you fail.

      • CKcheeseboy says:

        I look at it the other way: In most RPGs, you don’t have any control at all. You assume it’s going to hit you for full damage, and unless you get lucky and they miss, you take the damage. In these games, they give you the chance to take things into your own hands.

        Whether they overdo the damage you take if you fail is another design issue/discussion, but as far as the mechanic goes, I love it.

      • CKcheeseboy says:

        I guess to add: I don’t like in most RPGs where you pretty much take damage every time you go into battle, and even if you are just heading from one spot to another you run the threat of dying simply because there are a bunch of people that all WILL damage you if you fight them. In M&L, though, if you time everything right you can go through areas taking no or minimal damage, which saves having to backtrack to the last healing place after every few battles.

      • blaster says:

        I only played feew games you mentioned.
        Inside Story was epic, but not as epic as the first SMRPG.

        I have never played Platinum, but I already go Soul Silver. It didn’t require THAT much Japanese to play.

        Prof. Layton: Just finished the first one, playing the second one right now. It’s character esign rocks, and requires some thinking, too.

        I played a little Spirit Tracks and beat two temples. And I’m stuck, can’t get to third.

  12. D3vin says:

    Another thing about the podcast is it is the main ingredient of your site, with a side of news and other stuff. Here it is a compliment to the Comic, which is why I’m here. Comic first, podcast second, forum and store third.
    Your site gets lost in the sea of Sonic fansites that offer all things Sonic, especially since I go to Sonic Retro for all my info needs, in a easy wiki-format

    • D3vin says:

      Although I like the random site logos featuring all the different characters, nice touch. I just find that since the podcast is the bulk of your site, If one doesn’t like it, there is not much else for the readers to do.

  13. Ryman says:

    Roadj, the main problem you have is this tunnel vision that says “Oh, hey, I don’t like this genre/game series, so it -can’t- be good.” You can’t say that no good games came out this year when tons have come out, and not just on what systems you enjoy.

    • roadjcat says:

      You are aware I don’t like FPS’s and adore the two Modern Warfare games right?

      And what did I say? I don’t like those things from experience, many from first hand. I don’t usually totally reject genres unless I’ve played many of them and don’t like them.

      After playing many platformers, I’ve decided I don’t like the genre. After playing many Zelda games, I’ve decided that they’re just okay, nothing special. I love Paper Mario, so my dislike of Bowser’s Inside story is founded. It’s not like I don’t like RPGs. I just didn’t like the game much.

      As for realistic racing games, well those I have played many of. I’ve only played PGR4 and a demo of Forza 2. Like the first one (only when using motorcycles though) and hated Forza. So…I was in no rush to buy more. And sports games are just boring to me because it’s something…well…real. Mario Sports games are fine.

      And I very much would like to try Uncharted and Infamous, but I don’t have a PS3.

      Hence why I said these two things:
      “So it may have been a good year for some, but I was not one of those people.”
      and
      “The only really good games that came out this year that are coming to mind are Modern Warfare 2 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2, both 360 games.

  14. As much as I enjoyed the first portion of the podcast, it seemed like the host really just loved to hear himself talk. Finally shut it off, never to return.

  15. Retl says:

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen this post about the Spindash Podcast before. I’ve gotta check it out!

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