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February 4th, 2009

In A Fragile State

TimWhen Ray pitched me the idea of doing an Antiques Roadshow comic set in the future, I knew we had to do it because, A) Antiques Roadshow is awesome and B) it was an opportunity to see Tim and Ray as old dudes, very awesome. The only problem was, what was the joke going to be? We sort of figured that would come later, so Ray started drawing old us and everything else before the joke finally came (late last night). I’ve got to give Ray credit all around here, because he had the idea to do the 360 and my only contribution was to suggest we red ring it in the final panel plus the actual text of the dialogue. It was almost like Ray was giving me the week off, so thanks Ray! Hope you enjoy!

RayFor the record, I also suggested the red ring of death joke at the end. That old age is hurting your memory, Tim!

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80 Comments

  1. Warll says:

    Mah, Xbox emulators will be out by then.

    • Mr. Saxaphone says:

      There are a Lot of nes and snes emulators, and they are still worth a fortune, factory sealed. Also, notice that old Ray’s for arm is bigger than his bicep.

  2. Ytoabn says:

    Cute, I suppose. Though I tire a bit of Red Ring of Death jokes, even if this is a new take on it.

  3. Tacos says:

    Man, that beanie has stayed in remarkable condition over all those years. I also like how Ray looks the exact same in both panels.

  4. ultimateDK says:

    Funny thing is, by that point $1million in future money will be worth only about $2.76 in today’s money.

  5. ultimateDK says:

    Hey wait, no change in logo at the top of the screen?
    ….ohhh, i get it, “antique”
    😉

  6. Dominator_101 says:

    So is that Tim’s or Ray’s 360 that lasted that long?

    Also, did you get rid of the ratings, or can I just not see it for some reason?

  7. sheppy says:

    I think it’s Rays that survived. I don’t think Tim’s can survive the next Prince of Persia rage attack.

  8. FluffyPanda says:

    When you reach that age you have a different (and far more frightening) meaning for “red ring of death”.

  9. RedVinnie says:

    man, i can have the absolute worst day at school(which i did), and a new 2p start comic just cheers me right up. NCG! although i do want to know if ray fell asleep or not……

  10. ultimateDK says:

    Ray is caught in a coma, after Sonic Team after some time finally released a sequel worthy of the Genesis titles. It literally took his breath away.

    Oh, how we wait for that game to come out someday…..
    *crouches into fetal position*

  11. Narnian says:

    I like that it just says “Never mind” on the ticker at the bottom, instead of the more obvious route of having Tim/Sleeping Ray/Announcer Dude saying it. That makes it more funny 😛

    Also I do think Ray is sleeping…and what’s with the thumbs up sign? Maybe he’s dreaming he’s a certain sneaker-clad hedgehog

  12. Supersonic24 says:

    Wow, I thought Tim was much older then Ray, but it looks like Ray just died there. Not to mention Ray looked like he was Tim’s grandpa.

  13. BulimicKoala says:

    MY GOD. Tim and Ray will be EVEN SEXIER when they get old.

    Ray is caught in a coma, after Sonic Team after some time finally released a sequel worthy of the Genesis titles. It literally took his breath away.
    Oh, how we wait for that game to come out someday…..
    *crouches into fetal position*

    Yes but he is in a sexy coma.

    I like that it just says “Never mind” on the ticker at the bottom, instead of the more obvious route of having Tim/Sleeping Ray/Announcer Dude saying it. That makes it more funny
    Also I do think Ray is sleeping…and what’s with the thumbs up sign? Maybe he’s dreaming he’s a certain sneaker-clad hedgehog

    No he is giving the thumbs up because he was looking in a mirror…..Wait what? ERRR I mean he is giving a thumbs up because he was happy to see the sequel worthy of the Genesis titles.

  14. Tim says:

    Wow, I thought Tim was much older then Ray, but it looks like Ray just died there. Not to mention Ray looked like he was Tim’s grandpa.

    The stress of drawing the comic really took a toll on Ray’s health. In addition, I aged gracefully due to my loving and supportive wife, future children, and countless future grandchildren.

    Also, Ray’s famous hair ‘curl’ is still hanging on there, which I think was a great touch.

  15. steve-ohs says:

    Tim ages so well because he still swims his daily lap in his swimming pool full of money.

    Ray, Ray is just creepy, he’s not giving a thumb up, its just he has bad arthritus from all the drawing Tim made him do.

  16. D3vin says:

    Wow, I thought Tim was much older then Ray, but it looks like Ray just died there. Not to mention Ray looked like he was Tim’s grandpa.

    The stress of drawing the comic really took a toll on Ray’s health. In addition, I aged gracefully due to my loving and supportive wife, future children, and countless future grandchildren.
    Also, Ray’s famous hair ‘curl’ is still hanging on there, which I think was a great touch.

    Yeah, I would have thought that Ray had gone bald by now…
    I guess the spinoff: ‘2P Start: The next generation’ isn’t so far off… after all. Tom and Rayline’s (Tim and Ray’s son and daughter, respectively) comic will be entertaining my son, D3vin 2.0 with Classics as “Polygon Vision Adventures” and the hazel ring of deadly death and joking at the Playstation246!

    Ahhh, the future never looked so sweet

  17. Dominator_101 says:

    Also, Ray’s famous hair ‘curl’ is still hanging on there, which I think was a great touch.

    Don’t forget about his famous Knubby elbows!

  18. MetaRidleyR27 says:

    Nice comic guys! But for the logo, you should have had Tim and Ray with walkers. 😀

  19. D3vin says:

    Also, Ray’s famous hair ‘curl’ is still hanging on there, which I think was a great touch.

    Don’t forget about his famous Knubby elbows!

    Yes, because EVERYONE knows those fall off when you get old!

  20. Gadoink says:

    NCG (insert usual praise here).

    And I still want to know why I got ripped on at the start of the Black Doom Awards last podcast. Is it just my username, or something I did?

    I really want to know if it’s something I did…

  21. Tim says:

    NCG (insert usual praise here).

    And I still want to know why I got ripped on at the start of the Black Doom Awards last podcast. Is it just my username, or something I did?

    I really want to know if it’s something I did…

    Forgot about that. Ray has just run out of Sonic Team characters, so I thought I’d insert a 2P START! user instead! Feel honored to be the first ever!!!

  22. roadjcat says:

    Also, Ray’s famous hair ‘curl’ is still hanging on there, which I think was a great touch.

    I was thinking that as well. Old Tim and Ray was really the joke here if you ask me. XD SCG.

  23. RedVinnie says:

    btw, happy 2 year comic anniversary guys! 52 + 52 = 104, yeah im right. it the 2nd anniversary for 2p start!

  24. BulimicKoala says:

    btw, happy 2 year comic anniversary guys! 52 + 52 = 104, yeah im right. it the 2nd anniversary for 2p start!

    Wow only a little more time until they become super sexy. Man I will be so happy. Also please donate to 2pstart to prevent Rays Thumbsupidis which will paralyze his arm when he grow old and he wont be able to hug his children etc. So please donate to my email adress and I will make sure it goes to the nigerian pri..Erm I mean them.

    BulimicKoala@hotmail.com

  25. BulimicKoala says:

    NCG (insert usual praise here).
    And I still want to know why I got ripped on at the start of the Black Doom Awards last podcast. Is it just my username, or something I did?
    I really want to know if it’s something I did…

    Forgot about that. Ray has just run out of Sonic Team characters, so I thought I’d insert a 2P START! user instead! Feel honored to be the first ever!!!

    Ray running out of Sonic Team characters. I call Shenanigans. Boogely Boogely Boo.

  26. CKcheeseboy says:

    Meh, RRoD jokes are overdone, but at least you put a nice spin to it. I did like the scroller in the last panel.

  27. Ray has just run out of Sonic Team characters,

    You can always tap in the the well of terrible known as the sonic expanded universe (If the bad star wars books get it, why not the bad sonic books and like, they are way worse.) Not only do they have Tommy the Turtle, but also his evil robotic clone that was sent to convince sonic that Tommy had not died, then betray him, and let’s not forget Manic and Sonia, or any of the other, less appreciated, abominations of characters from Underground.

    Anyway, I prefer to believe that ray is not in a coma from sonic team coming out with an incredibly good/terrible sonic game, but rather because this comic takes place in 1/1/26, and now that ray is finally free of his contract. As for why they’re so old, this was obviously caused by the 3rd robo-pocalypse, if you could see off panel you’d find thousands of robots with guns at the ready, just in case, don’t worry though, I’m sure Charles Barkley will be able to save us like he has in the future past (that is, an event that happened in the past of the future).

    (If you were completely lost as to what I was referencing, play Charles Barkley’s shut up and jam Gaiden: Part 1 of the Hoopz Barkley saga.)

  28. BulimicKoala says:

    I could make better characters then sonic team like Boom the Baboon who eats bananas and has no dialouge also he doesn’t show up in any game because anybody who is not sonic,tails, or knuckles suck.

  29. Gadoink says:

    NCG (insert usual praise here).
    And I still want to know why I got ripped on at the start of the Black Doom Awards last podcast. Is it just my username, or something I did?
    I really want to know if it’s something I did…

    Forgot about that. Ray has just run out of Sonic Team characters, so I thought I’d insert a 2P START! user instead! Feel honored to be the first ever!!!

    Lol…
    Ok…
    Hey MetaRidley, do I get an achievement for that or something?

  30. Gadoink says:

    btw, happy 2 year comic anniversary guys! 52 + 52 = 104, yeah im right. it the 2nd anniversary for 2p start!

    Sorry for the double post…
    2 year anniversary, eh?
    This is also the real comic 100 (if you don’t count guest strips and Tim’s Take).

    Interesting timing!

  31. Brawler08 says:

    Tim ages so well because he still swims his daily lap in his swimming pool full of money.
    Ray, Ray is just creepy, he’s not giving a thumb up, its just he has bad arthritus from all the drawing Tim made him do.

    Ray, draw? Ha! I laugh at the thought! You saw his barrel roll sketch right?

  32. Kvb says:

    I’ve considered this scenario a couple of times. I’m fairly sure this will actually happen at some point.

    It’s kind of scary to see that, even though technology keeps improving, consoles break more easily with each generation.

    It’s a bizarre thought: When the last Xbox 360 finally croaks, there will still be several playable NESes.

  33. SidGarcia says:

    So the future looks bright. Like, the humans are actually [b]GLOWING.[/b]

    And also we have Tim and Ray on TV[i](yay!)[/i] and Antiques Roadshow has kept on doing shows for 75 years.
    And there are no remaining working XBOX 360’s left.
    (Sorry Xbox fans, I just don’t like it)

    And at last, [b]N[/b]ice [b]C[/b]omic, [b]G[/b]uys.

  34. Moonjuice7 says:

    NCG! I was alittle disappointed by the logo. i enjoy thehumar and all, but i like seeing a new logo every week. Oh well.
    Also, if Microsoft dies with the 360, then macs will oficially rule the world. (i know its a long sht, but a guy can hope. right?)

  35. PEPE says:

    Que gracioso es el comic. Eso de las luces rojas es verdad, muy molesto.

    Un saludo a todo el mundo 🙂

  36. MetaRidleyR27 says:

    Ah, what the podcasts would be like 75 years in the future…

    “Hello! And welcome to 2P START! LIVE! He’s… uh… Tim!”
    “And he… is… Ray… *snore*”
    “We hope you enjoy the sh- Tim. Tim! Tim, wake up! Drink some Dr. Pepper!” 😀

  37. CKcheeseboy says:

    Ah, what the podcasts would be like 75 years in the future…
    “Hello! And welcome to 2P START! LIVE! He’s… uh… Tim!”
    “And he… is… Ray… *snore*”
    “We hope you enjoy the sh- Tim. Tim! Tim, wake up! Drink some Dr. Pepper!”

    “Now it’s time for comic talk.”
    “WHAT?”
    “I said IT’S TIME FOR COMIC TALK”
    “What? Sonic Chalk?”

  38. Ninja Koala says:

    btw, happy 2 year comic anniversary guys! 52 + 52 = 104, yeah im right. it the 2nd anniversary for 2p start!

    Sorry for the double post…
    2 year anniversary, eh?
    This is also the real comic 100 (if you don’t count guest strips and Tim’s Take).
    Interesting timing!

    Well If we could alter our messages dp would be really bad so dont be sorry.

    NCG! I was alittle disappointed by the logo. i enjoy thehumar and all, but i like seeing a new logo every week. Oh well.
    Also, if Microsoft dies with the 360, then macs will oficially rule the world. (i know its a long sht, but a guy can hope. right?)

    Yea then all computers will have buggy versions of Imovie and be super sexy.

    Also sticking to one name is for chumps.

  39. Gadoink says:

    Que gracioso es el comic. Eso de las luces rojas es verdad, muy molesto.
    Un saludo a todo el mundo

    I’m not certain about this, but this is the first comment I can remember seeing that is not in English.

  40. The taxidermist did an outstanding job on Ray!

  41. Ray says:

    NCG! I was alittle disappointed by the logo.

    Fixed. Sorry for the delay…

  42. Gadoink says:

    NCG! I was alittle disappointed by the logo.

    Fixed. Sorry for the delay…

    And I don’t get it… :-/
    Can you explain it to me? Those look like pills of some kind…

  43. BulimicNinja says:

    NCG! I was alittle disappointed by the logo.

    Fixed. Sorry for the delay…

    And I’m sorry that you will become a stuffed novelty item when you grow old. Don’t worry when your children sell you I will bid on you.

    NCG! I was alittle disappointed by the logo.

    Fixed. Sorry for the delay…

    And I don’t get it… :-/
    Can you explain it to me? Those look like pills of some kind…

    Maybe their old?

  44. MetaRidleyR27 says:

    Hmm… That’s odd. The users BulimicKoala, Ninja Koala, and BulimicNinja have all have really similar names. I wonder if they’re somehow related… 😛

  45. roadjcat says:

    Que gracioso es el comic. Eso de las luces rojas es verdad, muy molesto.
    Un saludo a todo el mundo

    I’m not certain about this, but this is the first comment I can remember seeing that is not in English.

    Yeah, and what do you know, I actually kind of understand what it says…

  46. ultimateDK says:

    Ah, what the podcasts would be like 75 years in the future…
    “Hello! And welcome to 2P START! LIVE! He’s… uh… Tim!”
    “And he… is… Ray… *snore*”
    “We hope you enjoy the sh- Tim. Tim! Tim, wake up! Drink some Dr. Pepper!”

    “Now it’s time for comic talk.”
    “WHAT?”
    “I said IT’S TIME FOR COMIC TALK”
    “What? Sonic Chalk?”

    “Wow, black clouds seem to be rolling in…”
    “Where? Is it really? I don’t feel my arthritis acting up”
    “No Tim it’s time for the dreaded….Black Knight Awards…”
    “Ohhhhh….Muahahahack*coffcoff*wheeze*”
    “You ok there Timmy Boy?”
    “Yes Ray, I’m dandy. My Black Knight award goes to…Prince of Persia.”

  47. Gadoink says:

    Hmm… That’s odd. The users BulimicKoala, Ninja Koala, and BulimicNinja have all have really similar names. I wonder if they’re somehow related…

    They might just be all the same person, you know. Why someone would have 3 usernames I’m not sure though…

    Que gracioso es el comic. Eso de las luces rojas es verdad, muy molesto.
    Un saludo a todo el mundo

    I’m not certain about this, but this is the first comment I can remember seeing that is not in English.

    Yeah, and what do you know, I actually kind of understand what it says…

    Well what does it say then?

  48. D3vin says:

    NCG! I was alittle disappointed by the logo.

    Fixed. Sorry for the delay…

    Take the Tim pill and take the journey down the rabbit hole….

  49. BulimicNinjaKoala says:

    Not everything is what it seems.

    But nice new logo. its pretty cool.

  50. Steph says:

    Love the comic this week… just one thing bothered me…

    It looks like Ray put a lot of time to make the 360 look exactly like a real one, but he missed one little thing. The flap-door that hides the 2 USB ports isn’t shown. =P

    All in all though… great comic. Keep up the good work.

  51. Kyzin says:

    Very nice, if not a little annoying(it reminds me of my parents watching that show in the early hours) and I think that Ray has fallen into a coma out of (at first) joy of the 2pstart future video game, and then in sadness that he [spoiler] dies at the end![/spoiler]

  52. RedVinnie says:

    btw, i figured out what the 2p start theme song is!
    is it[spoiler]the rolling start music in daytona usa for the arcade/saturn?

  53. RedVinnie says:

    btw, i figured out what the 2p start theme song is!
    is it:
    [spoiler]the rolling start music in daytona usa for the arcade/saturn?

    damn, dont know how to use the spoiler tags….

  54. CKcheeseboy says:

    btw, i figured out what the 2p start theme song is!
    is it:
    [spoiler]the rolling start music in daytona usa for the arcade/saturn?

    damn, dont know how to use the spoiler tags….

    You need to close the tag after whatever you want to be in the tags. You can either:
    1. Click the tag button, type stuff in, and click it again when you are at the end,
    2. Type in what you want, click & drag to highlight it, then click the tag button, or
    3. Type in the tags manually, which is the square braces around the word “spoiler” to start and the square braces around “/spoiler” to close.

  55. RedVinnie says:

    so
    [spoiler]
    like this?[/spoiler]

  56. vincecult says:

    ray having his thumb up like that and eyes closed kinda reminds me of a fetus. like when u see a sonogram and the baby is sucking its thumb

  57. roadjcat says:

    Hmm… That’s odd. The users BulimicKoala, Ninja Koala, and BulimicNinja have all have really similar names. I wonder if they’re somehow related…

    They might just be all the same person, you know. Why someone would have 3 usernames I’m not sure though…

    Que gracioso es el comic. Eso de las luces rojas es verdad, muy molesto.
    Un saludo a todo el mundo

    I’m not certain about this, but this is the first comment I can remember seeing that is not in English.

    Yeah, and what do you know, I actually kind of understand what it says…

    Well what does it say then?

    Well, I didn’t know what the last sentence was (though I looked it up) but it says (this is paraphrasing, direct translation sounds stupid):

    Funny comic. Those red lights are true, very annoying. Greetings to everyone.

    Now obviously I’m not the greatest translater in the world, but y’know what the basic gist of the comment its?

    “NCG”

  58. ultimateDK says:

    ray having his thumb up like that and eyes closed kinda reminds me of a fetus. like when u see a sonogram and the baby is sucking its thumb

    Well, babies are very much like the elderly

  59. ultimateDK says:

    ray having his thumb up like that and eyes closed kinda reminds me of a fetus. like when u see a sonogram and the baby is sucking its thumb

    Well, babies are very much like the very elderly
    -usually end up eating some kind of fruit-based mush
    -no hair
    -motor skills much lower than a human adult
    -need to poop in a daiper

    all in good fun =]

  60. Betta splenden says:

    Half a century has passed. There’s a few things wrong here:
    a) Who cares about the 360 then? We’d have a better consle from all the companies.
    b) Antiques Roadshow is still on. Would would watch it then? It’s a bad show.
    c) Tim looks feminine.
    d) Ray doesn’t have carpel tunnel after years of hard labour.
    e) Tim would be super rich after this, because of his swimming pool of money.
    f) That creep aseesing the 360 has bad hair.
    Otherwise, NCG!

  61. sheppy says:

    I do want to say how appropriately timed for a RROD comic to appear…

    http://www.destructoid.com/is-the-360-s-hdmi-update-causing-red-rings-days-after-expired-warranty–120876.phtml

    I’m safe but I did notice it now takes longer for my 360 to get to the dashboard than it previously did with the update.

  62. Gadoink says:

    Betta, I do not agree with you on point C.

  63. Betta splenden says:

    Gadoink, the glasses make Tim look s l i g h t l y like a granny. THat’s all I’m saying.

  64. WhoamI? says:

    Hmm… That’s odd. The users BulimicKoala, Ninja Koala, and BulimicNinja have all have really similar names. I wonder if they’re somehow related…

    Well its obvious that its a cult

  65. ubuntun3rd says:

    btw, i figured out what the 2p start theme song is!
    is it[spoiler]the rolling start music in daytona usa for the arcade/saturn?

    Woah! You’re right! That explains why I kept hearing 2P Start Live! starting whenever I walked into an arcade at the beach last summer. I thought I was going crazy!

  66. Gadoink says:

    btw, i figured out what the 2p start theme song is!
    is it[spoiler]the rolling start music in daytona usa for the arcade/saturn?

    Woah! You’re right! That explains why I kept hearing 2P Start Live! starting whenever I walked into an arcade at the beach last summer. I thought I was going crazy!

    Heh, that’s funny!
    Also, nice avatar. It’s cool!

  67. ubuntun3rd says:

    btw, i figured out what the 2p start theme song is!
    is it[spoiler]the rolling start music in daytona usa for the arcade/saturn?

    Woah! You’re right! That explains why I kept hearing 2P Start Live! starting whenever I walked into an arcade at the beach last summer. I thought I was going crazy!

    Heh, that’s funny!
    Also, nice avatar. It’s cool!

    Thanks! I just felt like spending some time with GIMP.

  68. Kyle says:

    Get over yourselves…. this cartoon is not funny. I mean not funny in a way that I’m pissed that my time was wasted here.

  69. ryan says:

    Quit being so harsh. Its funny, people already act like that in some ways with vintage nes consoles. The ones that wont play unless you do something funky with the cartridges.

  70. FluffyPanda says:

    Get over yourselves…. this cartoon is not funny. I mean not funny in a way that I’m pissed that my time was wasted here.

    You know, you would have wasted less time by not commenting?

    And now you’ve wasted my time too… Well done 😉

  71. Noah says:

    CollegeHumor.com totally ripped off this comic for their latest “CH Original” entitled “Antiques Roadshow 2550“. Although, your take is definitely funnier.

  72. Joe says:

    Last working 360 lasting to 2021? I don’t think so. Maybe 2012.

  73. Sum1 says:

    Hits close to home for me. Mine red ring’d last friday (the 13th!) ='(

  74. Nabisco says:

    AHHHHHHH! Mine Red Ringed last night. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  75. chriskatching says:

    OMG Old Ray and Tim hehehe 🙂

    I would just be laughing on the side if I was there, as Ray would know x_X Lol

  76. fhqwhgads says:

    Mah, Xbox emulators will be out by then.

    Are you kidding? They’ll have the 2160 out by then!

  77. fhqwhgads says:

    Oops! Just noticed that your red ring of death is incorrect. Not trying to be rude, but the inner power light is supposed to be green with 3/4 red circle round it.

  78. Notester82 says:

    Well, time for emulators!

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